Zaid
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Post by Zaid on Aug 6, 2017 5:07:12 GMT
^yes please
Voteoff anyone?
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xfilez
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Post by xfilez on Aug 6, 2017 5:18:38 GMT
^yes please Voteoff anyone? I wouldn't be completely against it. If you want to do it though, standard vote off procedure involves PM'ing Famas. |
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Post by _flippy on Aug 6, 2017 5:34:34 GMT
We don't get heard that's the thing...
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Post by _flippy on Aug 6, 2017 5:43:25 GMT
Line 1237: [23:35:36] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [ADMIN] Commodore64x [Dev]: seniors can't suspend me Not only this but he readded himself after being removed which is another problem. Then shouldn't this be rogue activity as he was suspended but added himself back to admin? |
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Zaid
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Post by Zaid on Aug 6, 2017 5:45:25 GMT
So is he suspended right now because if not we could do it again
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inFAmas97
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Post by inFAmas97 on Aug 6, 2017 7:26:18 GMT
Obviously, he isn't "above the law." But if everybody followed the policy suspensions would hardly ever be necessary. The policy states developers and server admins are completely separate, each with their own responsibility. The problem is everyone keeps trying to do the others job. For some reason, server admins want to control developers, and developers want to administrate. In this case, commo was administrating, which per policy, should have been left to the admins in game. Please stick to the policy, if admins did the administrating and developers did the developing then there would be absolutely no reason for a suspension. I've told commo that since he is a developer he should leave any administrating to the server admins, the same for admins - leave developing to the developers. policy: totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/51873/developers-admin-important-admins-read |
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xfilez
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Post by xfilez on Aug 6, 2017 9:19:55 GMT
So if this suspension is invalid, how would we go about dealing with developers insisting on administrating?
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Post by Wild1145 on Aug 6, 2017 9:39:41 GMT
Obviously, he isn't "above the law." But if everybody followed the policy suspensions would hardly ever be necessary. The policy states developers and server admins are completely separate, each with their own responsibility. The problem is everyone keeps trying to do the others job. For some reason, server admins want to control developers, and developers want to administrate. In this case, commo was administrating, which per policy, should have been left to the admins in game. Please stick to the policy, if admins did the administrating and developers did the developing then there would be absolutely no reason for a suspension. I've told commo that since he is a developer he should leave any administrating to the server admins, the same for admins - leave developing to the developers. policy: totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/51873/developers-admin-important-admins-read A developer has in game admin permissions, as such they are subject to the same rules as any other administrator are they not? Commodore exhibited rogue behaviour while also having in game admin access, he was suspended from his admin permissions, not his developer role. If he has crossed between admins and developers in his rank then that is his problem and not ours. You cannot keep the developers and admins separate, and then give developers admin in game. If you want developers and admins to remain separate and stop seniors suspending them for misconduct or quite frankly rogue behaviour, then you need to remove their in game admin permissions, and they should only have them for testing purposes as the policy states. Neither Commodore or Marco are senior admins, and by the policy they should hold no in game admin status: |
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Post by markbyron on Aug 6, 2017 11:21:47 GMT
it appears that inFAmas97 has answered the question and correctly notified the developer. Given the access and perms a dev might have, if a dev needs to be removed for any reason (rogue, etc), send a PM right away to Windows, StevenNL2000, and inFAmas97. The devs are appointed by the owner and has sole discretion of their status but Zaid or others want a vote-off, you and they need to follow the policy please instead of trying to start something here - do carefully review totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/24940/vote-off-admin-policy-aug and it starts with, "If the executive admin(s) (currently inFAmas97 or Jaguar) or owner gets 3 or more different PM requests to remove an admin, they will take immediate steps to correct the admin and warn them they are under strong possibility to be voted off." So, you send a PM if you want and that's it. |
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